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EIGHT ARGUMENTS FOR BEING OFF-ISLAND
"Dear Editor, Congratulations on your website which I came across from a link during a regular perusal of the NZ Herald online. It is excellently written and researched.

"Re: The Brain Drain... Well-written article, good points, well made but... Perhaps my immediate family may serve as an example of why people may choose to leave NZ. I am a New Zealander resident in England's picturesque West Country where they make 'Zoider' and say 'Ooh-Arr'. I live in a mansion, holiday in Europe’s capitals some six times a year, and work for one of the world's largest advertising agencies. My closest sibling is a Manager/ Editor for an international guidebook company that's setting up shop in Prague (he's already established a guidebook in Krakow). My oldest sibling is a senior university lecturer (soon to be professor) in one of North America's most prestigious technical universities. Our parents, having worked and supported us so much, now sometimes struggle to make ends meet on a NZ pension in the South Island.

"Three brothers, three successful international careers, all of us originally thwarted in our ambitions in our home country and all now flourishing abroad. Why so? Well, at the large risk of seeming unpatriotic (I’m not), I’ve thought of a few reasons why people get frustrated with New Zealand and leave.

"Reason one. NZ’s population. We can’t offer the opportunities or even pay for the services we expect as a first world country with only 3.8 million people. Immigration is not going to solve all NZ's problems, but it'd help, whilst, I realise, creating new ones. We simply need more people, but they can’t all go live in Auckland, as Auckland’s power cut of ’98 sharply demonstrated. As a New Zealander abroad, that was/ is so embarrassing. There’s no rail infrastructure to speak of, State Highway One is only one lane, and our gene pool is so poor that, for example, we can’t perform bone marrow transplants at anything like the level of other western nations.

"Reason two. The National Government of the 1990’s. They virtually declared war on the NZ way of life. They were abysmal. No-one voted for Jenny Shipley to replace Jim 'Spud' Bolger, which leads me to…

"Reason three. The low standards of political accountability and high levels of public apathy. Every three years NZ elects a political party that then throws out its campaign manifesto and acts as an ‘elected dictatorship’, and there is no effective public response. Sure, people call up Radio Pacific and complain, but Government policy changes not one iota. How the hell was Winston Peters allowed to hold the country to ransom for so many weeks back in ’96? And I do recall that during my childhood, one Robert David Muldoon was allowed carte blanche to rule the nation as he saw fit for a decade. Remember the Price Freeze? The Tour? The Red Squad? The removal of TV2? The blackballing of Tom Scott? The Dawn Raids? He was a dictator. Okay, he had some amusing one-liners and was born for caricature, but he was a vicious little man who was an embarrassment abroad, and who brought a divisive, gutter style of politics to NZ. Thanks to him, gone are the days of a ‘Gentleman Jack’ Marshall, a MJ Savage or the thoroughly sensible decent and sensible Bill Rowling. We’re left with Peters, Richardson, Shipley & Prebble as his true heirs. I only hope Helen Clark can bring some sense of perspective and calm, and even more than that, intelligence, to the ridiculous NZ political scene.

"Reason four. NZ’s obsession with sport, especially rugby. Memo to Kiwis: most of the world couldn’t give a damn about rugby, as most of the world play plays soccer (admittedly, an inferior game). Most Americans haven’t even heard of the America’s Cup. Sport is an irrelevancy, but not in NZ where rugby is a national religion; but the 1981 Springbok Tour signalled that not all was/ is well with following such a faith. Our complacent paradise was somewhat shattered. 20 years on, nobody except John 'Banksie' seems to have supported the tour, um, so how come there was so much violence at the time?

"Reason five. Parochialism, ignorance and the ‘tall poppy syndrome’. A catch-all phrase, but... I cringe with embarrassment when I recall that we were the cause of a major Olympic boycott in ’76 when African nations stayed away from the games in protest against our rugby tour of Apartheid South Africa.

We’re proud of our beautiful scenery, great, but the way some folks carry on you’d think we had a world monopoly on it; the world’s other continents can look pretty okay too. Even England has Cornwall and the Lake District.

Auckland has a totally over inflated sense of its own importance, but other New Zealanders think you’ve made a pact with Beelzebub just by setting foot there. For a long while it was the only place in NZ that had any jobs.

NZ whites often hold racist views of Maori, refusing to see that there is a case to answer for past crimes. But then, many Maori do all they can to reinforce the negative stereotypes. ‘Once Were Warriors’ was not so much a work of fiction but a documentary.

"NZ’s attitude to immigration; when Pacific Islanders are doing menial jobs that we don’t want to, or when they’re winning our rugby games for us, they’re fine. The rest of the time we hark on about ‘overstayers’, and, I note, with disgust, that dawn raids have begun again. Our attitude to Asian immigrants is entirely, even openly, xenophobic. Shameful.

"NZ’s strong elements of curtain-twitching, suburban conformism, and mind numbing dullness. Only really recently challenged by the generation(s) that grew up listening to Split Enz, the ‘Dunedin’ Sound and Punk Rock.

"Reason Six. The economy. It sucks. My pound buys Three and a half Kiwi dollars.

"Reason Seven. Aesthetic trauma. My goodness we’re a scruffy bunch. Despite plenty of examples from well-groomed TV personalities, many Kiwis still have the fashion sense of a Worzel Gummage, a Dame Edna, a Fred Dagg, or a Mr Bean.

"Reason Eight. Our traditional 4 main centres are respectively built on; 2 dozen volcanoes, a major earthquake fault line, a swamp, and an area with its own Antarctic micro-climate.

"Despite all the above, I still consider myself to be a fairly patriotic Kiwi, but one with a perspective on the nation’s negative side of NZ as well as its benefits. – It’s that perspective that is lacking in your site. I guess that’s a deliberate ‘positivist’ stance, but possibly a flawed one, in my view. That said, the heroes section of your site made me flush with homesick patriotic pride… and only one All Black featured, the excellent Jonah Lomu (the most internationally famous Kiwi since Hillary). That catalogue of heroes made me acutely aware of how I don’t compare up to that legacy, but it is inspiring nonetheless. NZ has people and achievements in which it can be justly proud. Sadly, impressive as that list of heroes is, many people outside NZ would find it all hard to believe; when a Kiwi does well outside NZ he gets claimed as either an Aussie or a Brit’ in the world’s popular imagination.

May I suggest some other NZ heroes; (with a deliberate absence of contemporary sports people)…

Richard Pearse the inventor; Fred Hollows the eye doctor; Gen. Freyberg the adventurer; a certain Mr. Hamilton of Hamilton jet fame, George Nepia (sportsman, gentleman and cultural ambassador); Jack Lovelock; Sir Arthur Porritt; Captain Wilding of Wimbledon fame; Katherine Mansfield; Ngaio Marsh; Sam Hunt; The Wizard; Dame Whina Cooper; Hone Heke; Te Whiti & his followers at Parihaka; ‘King’ Dick Seddon; Michael Joseph Savage; John A Lee; Janet Frame; James K Baxter; Keri Hulme; The Wgtn Mounted Rifles (For ‘twas they, I believe, who actually took Chanuk Bair at Gallipoli); Captain Hobson; Governor Grey; Dave Lange (controversial, but it’s thanks to him we are still the only country in the world that’s avowedly nuclear free); the list could (and should), go on, and on…

"Good luck with the web site and the NZ Edge mission. I love the place but it drives me mad (much like my relationship with Britain). I miss my friends and family, Egalitarianism, the laid back (or ‘horizontal’) Kiwi attitude, laconic humour, personal body space, and the ‘feel alive’ flavour of Bell tea. I’m proud to be a New Zealander. I try to be a good ambassador for my country, and now I can just about afford it, I hope to be a regular visitor; but I don’t think I’ll be moving back. Craig Young."
West Country, England

STUDENT LOANS (AGAIN), DSIR LAMENT
"I think the NZ Edge concept is a fantastic idea and I sincerely hope it will affect political thinking back home in NZ. I love NZ but after living in Asia for 2 and a half years I now find it lacking in opportunities to earn money and the convoluted taxation/student loan system hinders efforts to start small businesses. I won't be coming back to live unless the system radically changes. I agree the education focus should be on IT (Sweden's success has proven it's benefits for small populations) - but I also believe more should be made of NZ's science graduates - I have met many people in my time abroad in awe of NZ's former DSIR and appalled it was split up and effectively destroyed as a leading creative force in the world's scientific arena. For my own selfish interests I hope the NZ economy picks up and help is provided to pay back the infamous student loans - they (the loans) inhibit not only the likelihood of marriage and children, but hinder career development where capital is desperately required for non-corporate/self-employed ambitions. Good luck NZ Edge - it's great to hear something positive - I hope I can help. Scott Behrnes."
Dive videographer/Researcher/Adventure Sport Guide, Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands

EXTENDING THE GAPS
"Extending The Gaps I have a real problem with the "Closing the Gaps" mantra of the current NZ Govt. It's absurd - we should be actively "Extending the Gap"! Before anyone misreads me, we all share in the problem of raising the bar at the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum, but at the same time we need to foster a society that doesn't place any limits at all at the other end. Extend the Gaps!"
IT Manager, Houston Texas, USA

PLASTIC PIONEERS
"Another two heroes for you! Did you know that the two major pioneers of plastic surgery were New Zealanders, Harold Gillies and Archie MacIndoe. Gillies worked in the inter-war years, and his apprentice and nephew MacIndoe continued his work during WW2. These two virtually created the speciality and a lot of people worldwide owe them a great deal."
Doctor, Christchurch, New Zealand

PEAK FLOW
"I am delighted to have found your site!! Carry on the good work - and let me know if i can help. I would love to. I am a French clinical psychologist and family therapist, currently living in New Zealand, and very interested in leading edges and peak performance models!!! The PPO principles are applicable to families as much as to organizations: there are inspirational players, inspirational dreams, challenges... the concepts are there readily applicable... but PPO works best with people such as Kevin that electrify their environment! Flowingly yours, Annick Janson jansona@hwl.co.nz "
Psychologist, Hamilton, New Zealand

IDEAS FOR SALE
"I have two very exciting business concepts for sale by arrangement. Both concepts are very viable and original. They are both supported by dot com domain names to which a website will be built and added. One concept was accepted into the 1998 Rolex Awards for Enterprise in Switzerland todd@altatude.com"
Co-Founder, Auckland, New Zealand

FIVE THOUGHTS
1.  "I think it healthy for us as a nation of people to forget our dates of arrival but concentrate our path's of journey.
2.  The cost of failure is experience, but the cost for not trying is your soul.
3.  The speed of going slow is the increase in the things you see.
4.  They want mana and prestige, which they confuse with responsibility.
5.  Titles creates the illusion ability exists.

If you want a copy of the full set email me at malulabah@xtra.co.nz Regards, Christopher Wingate."
Rotorua, New Zealand

THE GUTS TO GIVE DAMN NEAR ANYTHING A GO
"Kevin, I have been inspired and thrilled by your website - I am not the only one! This is a letter I wrote to the local paper. David

"Every day the media is full of stories about the so-called brain drain. Of thousands of New Zealanders fleeing our terminally damaged country for pastures greener. Of our brightest and best making the only wise decision open to them and taking their valuable skills overseas, of leaving their student loans behind them and making serious money in Australia, Europe and the United States. These people are lauded as being the smart ones, while the rest of us slogging it out in poor, tragic New Zealand are seen as being slightly foolish, or just not having anything the world wants. And frankly, I am starting to get a little tired of it.

"I live in New Zealand because it is the most amazing country I can imagine. Yes, our dollar is not worth as much as it used to be compared to the greenback (just like the Aussie, the Euro and a lot of other currencies from "better" countries). Yes, we’re isolated, small, lacking in some resources, crippled by a reactive, visionless political system that is dominated by two almost identical parties with a 3-year concentration span.

"But look at what we do have. We have spectacularly beautiful scenery that smart people travel the world to see. We have several compact cities that offer arts, entertainment and lifestyle without terrifying crime and overwhelming sprawl. We have a climate that is gentle and benevolent all year round. We have good schooling and health care available free to all of us, and, apart from a disastrous student loan scheme, high quality tertiary education freely available.

"We are populated by freethinking, courageous, intelligent and entrepreneurial people who have the guts to give damn near anything a go. Over our short history we have produced brilliant academics, filmmakers, actors, musicians, writers and business leaders. We have produced athletes like John Walker, soldiers like Sir Charles Upham, orators like David Lange and adventurers like Sir Edmond Hillary.

"We have the people, the resources, the intellect, and most of all; we have the attitude to change the world. The only real barrier that has stood between us fulfilling our birthright as world leaders is our geographical isolation.

"Until now. The Internet and low cost air travel has created an environment where we can directly influence the course of history like never before, and where we are makes virtually no difference. Our ideas, our creativity and our slightly anarchic, principled approach is what the tired, battered world is waiting for. If we stop trying to compete with the world’s industrial and business giants and start creating our own game by releasing ideas, leadership and vision, we will change the world.

"If our political leaders can get their heads around the future, and reward people for gaining skills, not penalising them with usurious loans and introduce legislation that encourages innovation and creativity, the world will once again look on us with awe. If we can encourage free-spirited, passionate and creative people from around the world to make this land their home, bringing with them knowledge and skills other people have paid for, we will succeed beyond all expectation.

"And to those (mostly young) Kiwi’s who are heading overseas with no intention of returning - go, we don’t need you. We need people with vision, courage and commitment to Aotearoa. To those who are heading overseas and planning to return; go with our blessing, learn from the rest of the world and when you are ready, bring your strength and knowledge back to change the world.

"And to those who moan about how bad things are here, and to the media who constantly focus on the bad news and the "brain drain", have you considered emigrating? Please?

David Thompson (Signed)
Accounting, Christchurch, New Zealand

A TOWN CALLED HOPE
"This is good! I've got a one-word equity for you that echoes the sentiments of heaps of smart young Kiwis: HOPELESS. We should be kicking the world's arse! We have the brilliant human resources to do anything but we need some guidance from above, and I'm not talking religion. If not, my generation will end up doing it for someone else in Sydney or London or wherever they'll have us. Kevin's vision rocks. Its the first time I've felt inspired about my future for a long time and I hope they're listening in Wellington. Don't just talk about it! Do something for fucks sake! Inspire me! Try and give me a new one-word equity: HOPE!"
Student, Perth, Australia

WE DON’T KNOW HOW LUCKY WE ARE…
"This is a bloody good kiwi site and I'll be spreading the word! Thank god someone has taken the bull by the horns and thankfully it isn't a bloody politican! In a time when we turn on to Jon and Carol to hear the news, all we hear are the bad, the worst and the ugly of NZ Society. We also tend to compare ourselves and our position in the world relative to others. Lets acknowledge our bad points and lets get on with it and start backing ourselves, that is where Kevin Roberts is leading the way he is leading by example and teaching us to back overselves! I have always been told that as Kiwi's we will never know how lucky we are until we travel overseas and thats right! We may have our bad points but we should back overselves much more all leading from the front and be grateful that we are so fortunate regardless of where we are in the world to be Kiwi's an one-of-a-kind."
Uni Student, Dunedin, NZ

WOW JUST WHEN THE HOMESICK BLUES WERE ABOUT TO KICK IN...
"Way cool matey, or rather, Ki Ora Bro, what can I say but Kia Kaha Te Pakeha!!! I have nearly been in the UK for 3yrs now and I had the pleasure of coming across NZEDGE.COM via the workthing.com site and man did it come at the right time. I am currently working in Hull [for the last 8 months - Hull invented the words grey and grim] until Friday and will be relocating to London permanently [hooray], I will tell as many of my Kiwi mates as possible about this great forum for all things Kiwi, and I would swear that the content also has a taste of highbrow kiwi cultural [looove] branding in there as well! Thanks for the experience, look forward to seeing the site grow and grow, lets hope that we never lose our cultural edge. Thanks mate, Clinton Mancer. 
@ cmancer@visto.com "
Hull, England

I NEED SOME NEW TROUSERS
"Hi Kevin, Karen Walker or Zambesi would be nice and I think you can help. You see I read your address to the Resource Management Law Association Conference . (I think it was the same day I worked out that if I sent home £1000 it would convert to $4,660 Cook Strait pesos). Thank you! Finally someone's had the balls to show up the '100% Pure' campaign for the steaming pile of number twos that it is. The 'edge' is where Kiwis should be pushing themselves beyond and the 'edge' is what NZ needs to bring to the world.

"Now about those trousers. An idea I've harboured / investigated for some time now is a London store representing New Zealand designers. They know we have green fields and sheep here in London, so let's show them something they don't know. Show them that our designers, by fact of their isolation, are some of the most original and innovative in the world. Not just clothes either. From the home-grown materials used in the store's interiors, through to the Kiwi Interior Designer used and the amazing images featured on screens instore. The issue is backing. I have friends over here in Property Management, Interior Design (well ok, it's my husband), PR and retail. Kevin, if you have any contact in New Zealand that you could forward this to, or advise me of, I'd really appreciate it. In fact, I don't even mind if someone else takes this idea and runs with it. It just strikes me as such an obvious and effective way of promoting NZ and making some money for our fair shores.

"Just look at what Peter Gordon has done for our image on his own? Bugger cliched posters. The skies are concrete coloured over here now - these people need Nom d knits! Cheers. p.s. I'm aware that some Kiwi labels are already represented here, but they're swamped in large department stores and are hideously marked up."
Copywriter, UK

HEART AND HOME
"Have just finished reading your speech, with regards to a vision for the New Zealand Edge. It was very insightful and thought provoking, I only hope some of those now running our country (into the ground - or somewhere close) read and then more importantly act on those ideas. I wanted to ask you about a point you made, that has me thinking. I have written to you before, along with the many other New Zealanders in a similar position to me. I have now been away from NZ for eight years, and at this point do not see any reason for returning, having started my own company in the US. However, the fact remains, my heart and home is still in NZ. You spoke about NZ having to build a bridge that connects to those of us who have left, and I guess my questions is what can we do, out of country, to create the infrastructure to support such a bridge? What can I do to bring the world a little closer to NZ, or NZ a little closer to us? Thanks for continuing to inspire and making us think about Home. Regards"

THE TIPPING POINT
"Dear Kevin: I just wanted to congratulate you on your very positive and visionary speech, of which I was forwarded a transcript last Friday night by a business colleague. This country needs more people with enthusiasm and drive, which as you know can be highly infectious. (Also, it's great to find another fan of Malcolm Gladwell; I picked up his book about five months ago after seeing a piece on it on Jim Lehrer's 'News Hour' on PBS...) 

"There are a few of us out there who've done the 'Great Kiwi Reality Check' and are now working toward moving this country into the future, in spite of the high level of negativity that's about at the mo'. (My favourite experience in recent times was a certain Wellington bureaucrat complaining about the fact that we had too many tertiary institutions, to which I replied, "Great, I'll fill 'em up with cash paying Chinese students!" - I guess I'm the kid looking for the pony in the room full of manure. I'm also looking at representing NZ secondary and tertiary level schools from my office in Shenyang.)

"For the last four or five years, I've been trying to sell this country on the idea of being an educational centre (see above) and R&D centre (a "skunkworks")for the world, which, so far, has had few takers, most people thinking my ideas a bit crazy, e.g. putting a percentage of our main CRIs on NASDAQ, or when the previous Government was talking about listing Solid Energy last year, I suggested to one of the directors that its value may be in its management systems, a'la NZ Post, and NOT what it digs out of the ground.

"Mind you, people laughed at me when three years ago I suggested that our recent migrants would have skills and contacts which could be of great value to exporters, which is why I currently have three overseas students (two from India, one from Taiwan) doing a research project on direct Foreign Investment into Papakura, which is costing the district nix, but has raised the awareness factor of the area with people whose families are successful business-types, who MAY just want to give junior a biz opportunity in NZ.

"So much for my pontification. Keep up the positive  message."

Kind regards, Peter S. Cooper, Senior Partner/CEO, The Omni-Link Partnership, Managing Director/CEO, Cooper & Sun Investment Services (Shenyang, China), Founding Partner/CEO, Harvest Datamedia, P.O. Box 72814, Papakura, New Zealand

THREE BIG IDEAS
"The Edge is doing a wonderful job of promoting New Zealand’s positive points during a bout of lost confidence. This sort of introspection is healthy as long as NZ can realise the need for change and develop some positive solutions. One thing I am sure of is that the way forward does not lie in a return to the past.

"As an expat now living on the West Island, I still support NZ whenever I can be it in sport or in promoting the country as a holiday destination. I do this because I still love my home country and would probably return if the economic and employment environment improved. I believe many of the expats making up the recent Kiwi Diaspora feel this way and can see many of the positive points of NZ that residents take for granted.

"The Edge is quite right in stating that these strong attachments should be used positively and developed into a network through the Internet. I believe that this Diaspora should be seen as an opportunity rather than a threat to the country. How can this be when NZ is losing so many of its best and brightest for whom the government has paid plenty to educate? By ensuring that those same people eventually repatriate some of their skills and resources. Utilising a network such as The Edge to promote initiatives can achieve this. I offer the following as examples of such initiatives;

1.  "Encouraging expats to promote NZ as a holiday destination to their peers overseas. Tourism is the biggest industry in NZ and surely has the potential to grow much larger. Effective promotion is the key. Making resources and information available to expats would help realise this promotional tool.

2.  "Setting up a venture capital investment fund to provide funding to NZ business start-ups. The fund would aim to source money from Kiwis overseas, who unlike foreigners know the great-unrealised potential of the country. At times like the present with a very low kiwi dollar this represents great investment value. Apart from the personal economic benefits, expats can take comfort from the contribution they are making to an improved economy and employment outlook for when they return.

3.  "Encouraging older expats to retire back to NZ and of course bringing their money with them. This could be done through the promotion of suitable real estate and lifestyle packages over the web."
Environmental Officer, Rockhampton, Australia

BRING BACK THE PASSPORT STAMP
"Hi Kevin, after reading your speech to the Tourism Conference I contacted Customs to find out why they don't stamp your passport, attached is their answer. Like you we witnessed a couple coming into NZ from Australia on their 2 year around the world trip and they got no stamp to say they arrived and will not get one unless they ask on their departure. With bar-coding of passports I believe this now gives them the time to put a stamp on (what would it take 5-10 sec. to pick up the stamp and use it), the stamp would look really good with our Fernleaf, New Zealand and HM Customs on it. I will write to the Minister of Customs and push the issue, if cost of the stamps is a problem I'll offer to pay hell we must only have about 12 sites where visitors are cleared into and out of the country (if you include the ports). This would have to be one of the cheapest ways to assist with making a Lovemark of NZ. Hope this is of some interest." Regards Richard Parkinson, Distributor EDGE Mineral Water, 2/62 Moana Av, One Tree Hill, Auckland, Ph;09 636 3468, Mb:025 309 824
Distributor, Auckland, New Zealand

NIGHT SHIFT OF THE WORLD
"I was intrigued to read about my country's Heroes, but was perplexed not to see the late John Britten profiled. His inventions sum up the kiwi can-do attitude (making the mould for the shell of his motorbike with No.8 wire and baking the engine in his wife's pottery kiln). He is a true source of inspiration.
Ed’s Note: HERO story on John Britten coming early 2001.

"I believe that the Internet is the way forward for us. We need to take a leaf from Ford's book: they wanted to increase the computer literacy of their staff, so with few restrictions, they offered any staff member a computer, printer and scanner for $5 per month. That is truly making a stand, not just a promise.

"New Zealand is 11 - 13 hours ahead of the UK and Europe, what a perfect opportunity to take over the email-based customer service operations that companies here are moving towards. They know they have to do it, but there is widespread reluctance to change culture, systems and sleeping habits to provide this essential service. US companies are teaming up with offices in India to provide this, we need to ensure we get the head start over Australia. I would welcome dialogue with you regarding the mechanics of this. I will be back soon, New Zealand will always be my home. Tom Butlin"
Internet Trainer, Brighton, United Kingdom



   
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"We are recent (albeit reluctant) inductees to the great NZ brain drain. We really like the intent and optimism your site is seeking to promote and look forward to regular updates as we all seek to turn the spiral upside down."
Trading Manager, New York, USA

"New Zealand doesn't have a strategy. We need one. I'm interested in networking with those who are interested in that idea. So I support what you're doing."
Strategic Consultant and Company Director, Waikanae, New Zealand

"We're a club for expat Kiwis living in Switzerland. We'd like to draw your attention to our website at: http://www.nzclub.ch. We also have a message board (Kiwi Chat) which we'd like to see Kiwis from all over the place use."
Aesch b. Maur, Switzerland

"Dear Brian, the New Zealanders living in Switzerland have just gone online. Our club comprises approximately 200 households. Some newcomers, some as you mentioned in your newsletter have been away for 30 odd years. Our website can be found at: http://www.nzclub.ch. I think your website is great. An excellent initiative. I've put it in our links list under "can't do without websites". Keep the flag flying. Best regards, Nicky Capoferri."
Switzerland

"Brian, have you thought of an article on Trevor Maxwell’s group Ngati Rangawhehi who performed at the recent Edinburgh Tattoo? They also performed for the NZ Thai Chamber of Commerce function on their way to Scotland. They are real ambassadors for NZ. Best regards, Bill Gasson."
Thailand

"Found a little quote I thought you might like..
Come to the edge, he said.
They said: We are afraid.
Come to the edge, he said.
They came.
He pushed them, and they flew...
Guillaume Apollinaire (1880-1918)
French Poet
Courtney http://projectme.tripod.com"
New Zealand

"If NZ is to become a 'great' place to live with the right spirit - we have to clean up the sick culture that lurks just below the surface of our NZ society. Regards Adrian Chisholm"
New Zealand

"Hi there, I have visited NZ Edge because I love your part of the world. Besides, I am a rower, and I have just been looking for more detailed information about your national hero Rob Waddell. - Thanks for the interesting report. I will definitely be visiting NZ Edge again."
Customer Support Manager, Essen, Germany

"Choice site! Nice to see a few people oft claimed as Aussies rightfully named as New Zealanders! Amazing to think how many top Kiwis there have been and are outside of that list. Just a shame that most have made it good away from home. Still, once a Kiwi, always a Kiwi, eh!
Post Grad Student, Uppsala, Sweden

"Thanks so much, for all the marvellous messages from NZEDGE. Belonging to the NZEDGE community is almost like being home again."

"I found the site very interesting itself,and like your country that I really like, unspoiled and clean from typical commercialism of our modern era closing, I have registered in your site for the upcoming news and events that would help me eventually visit New Zealand in the near future. Good luck!"
LAX airport rep & independent travel agent, Beverly Hills, CA 90211, USA

"NZ is a diverse country full of strong innovative exciting people. Communities are where the heart of the country is and we must always ensure we respect the diverse needs of those within them."
Community Employment Advisor, Auckland, New Zealand

"I am the Principal of the most off the edge school in the entire universe...yahoooo We call our school.. The Greatest Little School in the Universe. Our vision statement is..'Children at the Greatest Little School in the Universe Shall Reach the Stars.' Our other vision statement is..'We are the school that specialises in growing tall poppies.' Come visit us. Regards Paul The Supreme High Commander"
Principal, Auckland, Laingholm, New Zealand

TOO KIND
"Great following progress of this site...MUCH CONGRATS go to the young guy who started it all ORIGINALLY. A name can bring fame but sincere wisdom brings true gain. May you work together young and old true wisdom and meaning will unfold :) :) A universal kiwi, Glynis:)."
Napa, California,. USA

LELANI JOYCE: INSPIRATION
"It is a pleasure to be on your email list and receive inspirational news.

You mentioned Lelani Joyce in your list. My daughter is currently in the USA playing squash and is slowly rising up the world rankings after firstly completing a commerce degree at the University of Auckland. Having Lelani Joyce as a friend and role model is marvellous for our daughter and great for the sport .So we are appreciative of your mention of the achievement of Lelani. Regards, Bill Crome."

 




 


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